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  1. Some posters on other forums rightly questioned whether the Gold SPOT Treasure Scoop was really any better than a regular treasure scoop. Well, I already knew the answer to that question. You see for a year I have been working on the Gold SPOT design. I played with it I re-designed it, I proto-typed it 5 times. I wanted a design that would speed up nugget recovery and make it easier to keep the nugget in the scoop and not lose it. Remember, I'm the guy who had a catastrophic failure with the SAGA swing arm, and within days of release, I recalled them all from the field. They just did not perform as they were supposed to. I went back to the drawing board and sunk thousands more dollars into redesigning and perfecting the SAGA. I won't sell something unless I know it is a significant improvement over anything on the market. But just to show you what I already know, I decided to do a little impromptu video, an experiment. The video is unedited, except for the very end where I panned across an invoice with a customer's address on it that was sitting on the shipping table, I clipped that out. Watch the Gold SPOT in action and see what you think. Not to over-hype the Gold SPOT but one of the unique features of this scoop is that you can "HEAR" the gold. I know that sounds like an outrageous claim, but let me explain. When you get down to a small amount of dirt in a regular scoop along with a nugget and you agitate the scoop back and forth, the nugget does nothing but slide back and forth on the smooth bottom of the scoop. When you get down to a small amount of dirt in the Gold SPOT along with the nugget and you agitate the scoop the nugget rattles back and forth in the trough or channel clicking against the sides of the channel. Cool, right? I know we are getting quite a few Gold SPOTs out in the field and I would like to hear some feedback. Although if you are like me you are probably staying in out of the heat. -Doc
  2. If you think the SAGA is just a Swing Arm, it's not. It's a steering wheel for your detector. Start at the 3-minute mark on the video, and watch what the unique design of the SAGA can make your detector do. If you know of any device on the market that gives you this kind of control please let me know, because I know of nothing that even comes close. If what you see intrigues you then watch the entire video. You're going to find that the SAGA will make detecting much easier and less stressful on your body and give you control over your detector you have never had before. Call Chris now! -Doc
  3. I'm not going to bore you with the details of the first attempt. Valuable exercise because the New SAGA really is exceptional, if I don't say so myself. If you currently use a Swing Arm, you will throw it away when you use this one. • No more breakage at the pivot point where Swing Arms attach to the detector. The SAGA is designed with a pivot point that allows for the typical movement that allows you to swing the arm out and away from the detector, but it also is designed with a rotating Pivot Joint that allows for up and down movement of the arm. This eliminates breakage, but it also gives you better control over the coil on your detector. (Watch the 2nd video start at 6:30 minutes) • No more wishing there was a Swing Arm that would fit your detector with it's weird shaped rod (SDC2300). Nothing could be more weird than the upper part of a GPZ7000, yet look at the picture to see how well it fits even that weird shape. The unique design of the attachment base, allows you to easily attach it to regular round rods, or irregular shaped large rods, depending on how you thread the UV resistant rubber straps. • No more trying to store the arm, if you need your hand to do something else. The SAGA has a proper storage clip. • Feel like detecting without the Swing Arm for a while? No worries! Push a button remove the rod and handle from your detector and stow it away until you decide to use it again. • You're a tall person and you like the rod long, or you're a short person and like the rod short? Got you covered. You can easily trim the rod to the perfect length then glue the handle on with the included 1 ounce tube of silicone sealant. If you have never used a Swing Arm, well, you are spending a lot of energy swinging one handed and you are unnecessarily stressing one side of your body, your arm, neck, and shoulders. When you take a walk, do you use both legs or do you hop on one? If you are hopping around all day, that one leg is getting mighty tired. That's why using your muscles bi-laterally helps fight fatigue and strain. Not only that, but you will never have so much control over your detector. You will execute perfectly level controlled swings effortlessly, when you are using both hands. Watch the videos to better understand the unique design of the Swing Assist Guide Arm. It's the last Swing Arm you will ever need, or want! Retail $74.94 Discounted Introductory price $59.95 plus s&h Watch the videos below. On the second video go to around 6:30 minutes mark to see the kind of control the SAGA gives you over your detector. Call Chris today! Doc
  4. Wow Chris it looks great! I see you need one of my SD/GP/GPX arm cuff covers. I'll get one in the mail to you! Doc
  5. Chris there are two ways to install the base of the pivot joint and the rod storage clip onto your detector. It depends on how large the rod is, and if it is a weird shape, like the SDC2300. The rod storage clip is usually mounted up by the control box and with some detectors like the GPZ7000, that area can really be strangely shaped. You will notice that there are 2 double sided 3M foam sticky tape pieces included. Keep those handy but wait until you are confident you have the pivot joint and clip positioned where you want them. OK, so for a regular rod, like the lower fiberglass rod on your GPS4500. You are going to want to take the base of the pivot joint and place the side with two slots, on a table facing you. Thread the strap through the top slot on the two slot side. Now put the curved plastic piece on your rod in the approximate position you think you will want it. Right now you are just eyeballing the position. Take the strap over the rod and thread it through the slot on the side that only has one slot. Now go back over the rod in the opposite direction and thread it through the remaining slot on the 2 slotted side. Leave the strap really loose with a lot of slack. Do not try to tighten everything up until you have threaded the strap through all three slots. So what you are basically looking at is the strap going over the rod, then doubling back over the rod again. So one side of the rod will be against the plastic of the base, and the other side of the rod will be right up against the strap that is doubled over itself. If you want to play with the positioning of the pivot joint up or down on the rod, then go ahead and tighten the strap up and secure the appropriate hole in the strap onto the little anchor tab. Later when you are confident you know where you want the pivot joint and/or the rod storage clip, you can loosen the strap and slip the double sided adhesive foam in the place indicated in the attached diagram. Then tighten the straps back up. With an odd-shaped or large rod, instead of going over the rod, go under the rod, through the single slot, and back over the top of the rod and through the slot that is left on the anchor tab side of the base. This helps because this gives you the rubber strap on both sides of the irregular shape and allows the rubber strap to conform to the shape of the rod. Hope that is not too confusing. -Doc Doc
  6. Ready for delivery now. The Gold SPOT is here, ready to make nugget recovery a breeze. Call Chris and get your orders in so he knows how many he will need. The new Gold SPOT Treasure Scoop portable gold pan. This unique tool is designed to increase your recovery speed of detected nuggets. The recessed bowl of the scoop channels heavy gold into the bottom of the scoop (the Gold SPOT) when you give the scoop a little shake and agitation. When you start dumping dirt into your hand to isolate the nugget, the trough of the recessed bowl channels any gold up towards the riffles. The riffles hold the nugget as the lighter material spills over the tops of the riffles into your hand. Ever cleaned out a crack in bedrock and the material in your scoop is setting off your detector but you're having a difficult time locating that little speck of gold? Add a little water to the material and you have the fastest most convenient portable gold sniping pan ever. I was prompted to redesign the standard conventional scoop that has been around for over 30 years because with the popularity of the Minelab Gold Monster 1000, smaller gold is really hard to isolate with a standard scoop. Included with every Gold SPOT is a plastic lanyard and EZ on/off security clip. How many scoops have you lost? Well, not this one. The security clip is designed to allow you to always keep your scoop "at the ready" and be able to remove it and replace it in seconds using only one hand. See the video. The G SPOT comes in Green and we have a limited number of Yellow. I'm pretty sure you are going to love the unique features of some of the innovations I have incorporated into this scoop. Looking forward to your comments. The G Spot Scoop: Retail Price $17, discounted price, $14.95 or 2 for $27 plus s&h. Call Chris now and get your order in. Thanks! Doc
  7. Gang the first production prototypes of the SAGA V2 Swing Assist Guide Arms are here. See what improvements have been made. Comments welcome. Thank you to the people that gave me feedback on the first version which as we all know was a crash and burn. -Doc https://youtu.be/T8NZXBcIKYc
  8. So here's the latest SAGA news. As someone mentioned, maybe SAGA was not a good name as the development of this product has become something of a SAGA. The initial test run of 50, we took some and put them into the field. MONUMENTAL FAIL. These things were falling apart faster than you could swing your detector. To say they were under-engineered was putting it lightly. I had the basic concept of how this should be designed, but ultimately I depend on my fabricators to use the right material and finally design the product to withstand the rigors of metal detecting. Literally the only thing that performed well was the handle and the storage clip. I was shocked because I have been using the same company for 25 years and they have never let me down. And considering that they are working to totally re-design the piece, they didn't let me down this time either, it's just that it is taking a lot of time to make sure we get it right. The straps were totally worthless. If you pulled on them, with very little force, they broke. We are now making the straps of super rubber. The pivot joint, was made too weak. Various pieces were just snapping. The pivot pin was either falling out of the joint or simply breaking. The ball joint which I thought would be a great idea, was actually a pitiful execution. It actually allowed too much play in the joint and made it feel like you had little to no control over the Swing Arm. Precisely what I did not want to happen. There were only really two movement I wanted. Obviously the first, a pivot joint that would move out and away from the detector, to the right or left depending on which side you mounted the SAGA on. The second movement was a rotation joint allowing up or down movement to prevent breaking the pivot joint. Literally every Swing Arm out there has the ability to move out and away from the machine by some method that is not a true pivot joint, and designed with some very minor collateral allowance of up or down motion, but this limited range of motion causes a lot of breakage of the competitor's fake pivot joints. After going through the process I now know why competitors have designed their fake pivot joints in this manner, because they only needed one mold, which lowers costs significantly. My design requires 4 different parts and 4 molds. That does not count the 5th mold for the rod storage clip which my competitors do not offer. In addition to which competitors Swing Arms will not work on all detectors. The rods on detectors have started to come in all shapes and sizes making it difficult to design a mount that will fit them all. I think I have accomplished that feat. The swivel joint and storage clip can be mounted on a variety of different rod sizes and shapes. I could only laugh at what an absolute failure this thing was. If it had been one little thing that was wrong, then I would have been mad, but when the entire damn thing is an abortion, well all you can do is laugh and say let's go back to the drawing board. Literally until the Corona Virus came along this Swing Assist Guide Arm was the worst thing to ever come out of China. To save time I went to a local tooling shop with my new plans on how to make this thing bullet proof. I am happy to report that the resulting prototype is strong like a bull, and extremely sturdy. It is in the hands of my factory in China and they have already done the CAD renderings. This will be a winner! -Doc
  9. Hey Gang, Well, back to the drawing board. The first samples of Swing Arms we got into the field have failed miserably. Thanks to all of you who have put up with the frustration of being guinea pigs. If you have had one that failed, return to the dealer and he will refund your money, until the revised version is available. If you have one that has not failed, use it until it does, so you can give us feedback on what happened. Pictures are very helpful. So some of the things that have been identified are. 1. The strap, which I requested be made with some kind of UV rubber with fiber reinforcement was not made with reinforcement, so it stretches and then breaks. It also needs to be about 1 1/2 inches longer with one more adjustment hole. 2. The pivot ball joint has way too much play in it. It should only rotate 360 degrees with no side to side movement. Initially I thought it would give more freedom of movement, but it is movement that is not necessary and causes undo stress on the joint and a feeling of instability. The purpose of the ball joint is to only allow the arm to move up and down so it does not break. But the opposite is happening, because it has so much movement, there is a lot of stress on the part. That is an easy fix, the collar has to be redesigned to restrict the movement. I'll try to attach a pdf file to show you what I am talking about. Collar correction.pdf 3. The pivot joint, the one that has a pin in it that allows the Swing Arm to swing out and away from the detector is too thin and flimsy. This was supposed to be made of Nyglass, but I think they used something that was not suitable for this part. This will have to be redesigned to be thicker with tougher material and a more substantial nylon pin that will be sonic welded into place. The concept and functionality is solid, it is just the materials and some of the design that needs to be corrected. Now I don't know many manufacturers that announce to the public that they "screwed the pooch" so to speak. But you guys have always been very helpful with ideas and suggestions and helping me field test all this crazy stuff I come up with. So I wanted to include you on this. And trust me, this is the process I go through every time with everything I develop. From initial concept, to design to prototype to pre-production to testing to modification and back to testing and then to full production and shipping and delivery and to the market runs about 9 months to 1 year. Sometimes things go very smoothly, sometimes, not so much. It depends on the complexity of the item. Unfortunately for this SAGA swing arm there are so many different molded moving parts. 2 Molds for the handle, a mold for the storage clip, 3 molds for the pivot and pivot ball joint assembly, 1 mold for the straps, a mold for the buttons in the fiberglass rod, extrusion mold for the fiberglass rods. About $10,000 in mold costs alone. Fun, right? However, I have never brought to market anything that I don't use myself and stand behind 100% And the SAGA Swing Assist Guide Arm will be no different. So your patience is appreciated as we work on SAGA Version 2.0 Speaking of production, the "G Spot" scoops are in production but I had them made with a satin finish as in the attached picture. The shiny ABS material caused too much glare in my opinion and was too slick allowing small gold to slide too easily. The top picture is the new satin finish and the bottom scoop was the shiny prototype. Standby while we work out the bugs. Thank you and Happy New Year. Doc
  10. So what about a recovery scoop and a pocket gold pan in one? I promised you that I would be giving you another surprise this week. I have always loved using a recovery scoop, but it sort of aggravated me that little pieces of gold would sometimes sneak out of the scoop when I was trying to sift dirt into my hand. This aggravation has been even more exacerbated by the introduction of machines like the Gold Monster that find such dinky pieces of gold that they can surf right on top of the dirt and be easily lost. I have always advocated that when you get the target into your scoop try to agitate the dirt so the heavy gold sinks to the bottom. Well what if there was a scoop made where the bottom of the scoop was recessed a little to make it a SPOT to catch the GOLD. A Gold SPOT, Or a "G" Spot? Then what if the scoop was designed with an incline that led to three riffles of three different heights? This way when you sift the dirt out into your hand, the riffles stop the heavy gold and hold it making it easier to recover? I designed the "G" Spot so the scoop is smooth on the bottom so you can shove it in your pocket and take it out with ease. I looked at gold pans and they always form the riffles by molding them into the pan by raising the riffles on the inside of the pan by indenting the molded material on the bottom of the pan. This just causes a weak spot, and leaves crevices for dirt to collect in. Like to crevice? Add a little water to the "G" Spot and you have a recovery treasure scoop and pocket gold pan all in one neat little package. I think the "G" Spot with these unique features will speed up target recovery and it's just fun to use.. I guess this is actually sort of a tease because I only have these 5 scoops. They are just the pre-production proto-types sent to me for approval. So what do you all think should I approve these to go into production? I vote yes! What do you think? Doc
  11. Hey Gang, Listen I made a bit of a mistake it calculating the price on the new SAGA Swing Assist Guide Arm. Originally I was hoping these could retail for a minimum of $44.95, and I'm going to honor that price on all orders placed through Chris until January 10, 2020. However after getting the shipping charges and the import clearance fees, the import duty and tariffs, and I forgot to add in the fiberglass rods, after January 10 the price will go up to $49.95. Which is still less expensive than other competitors Swing Arms, and this arm far surpasses anything currently on the market in design, functionality and durability. Look at these features: • Fits any detector • Supplied with 35 inch rod, trim to suit you • Swivel Pivot joint, allowing you to move the arm in almost any direction without breaking the attachment point. • Sure strap attachment system gives you a solid fit on any shaped rod • Storage clip to store the SAGA arm when you are only swinging with one arm • Easy removal of the fiber glass rod with a push of a button to allow you to leave the rod in your vehicle if it is not needed. • Ergonomic Egg shaped grip for swinging comfort Thank you and Happy New Year. Doc
  12. An Aussie Prospector's Christmas Poem 2002 G.M. "DOC" Louignont, Ph.D. 'Twas the night before Christmas, when all o’er the land. Not a creature was stirring, not even one bloke with detector in hand; The Roo Scrotums wereall hung by the chimney with care, In hopes that a gold nugget from St. Nick would soon be in there; The ol’ prospector’s in OZ were nestled all snug in their swags, The same for prospector’s in the U.S. but there they call them sleeping bags; Mamma was still at home and I was still out bush, Down Under I wanted to be home for Christmas but I was bogged down because of rain and thunder, When outside my tent a terrible noise waked me from my sleep, Fleeing for me life out of the tent I did try to leap. I rushed right through the mozzie netting ripping it right fast, Tripped over me privates parts I did, and fell flat on me ass. The moon on the dry lake showed wet puddles of muddy mush It brought a tear to my eye when I saw a full can of beer I did crush, When, what to my bloodshot eyes should make me scream WOO HOO, But a miniature sleigh, pulled by eight Big Red Kangaroo, With a little old prospector, so lively and quick, I knew in an eye blink it must be St. Nick. More rapid than emu his Roo’s they came, And he screamed, and cursed, and called them by name; "Now, Skippie! now, Shelia! now, Bloke and Wanker! On, Cobber! on Mate! on, Dingo and Drongo! To the top of the trees those eight Roos flew all! I heard him scream, "Get your arse in gear or I’ll cut off your balls!" As hot winds that blow sometimes on a blistering December night, When those Roo’s got out of line, he did make them fly right! So up over those tree tops those Joeys they flew, With the sleigh full of detectors, and St. Nicholas too. As quick as a bean fart, I heard somewhere from behind The rustling of the brush, and the smell of beer and cheap wine. As I rose from me arse, and was turning ‘round in my place, Into my camp stumbled St. Nick and he fell right on his face. He was all dressed in detecting gear, from his head to his no metal boots, And his clothes were all tarnished with red dirt; he was a nasty ol’ coot; A bundle of detectors he had flung on his back, And he looked like a peddler just opening his pack. His eyes -- how bloodshot, his fat gut how disgusting! A string of rancid burps and putrid farts he kept busting! He smelled of booze, his breathe it was plain outrageous, And the beard of his chin so filthy I hoped there was nothing contagious; The stump of a fag he held tight in his teeth, And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath; But he had a broad smiling face when he screamed, "Put on the Billy." "You think I got all night to sit with you? Don’t be so damn silly!" He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf, But his smell was so awful it about made me puke on myself; A wink of his eye and a twist of his head, He told me he was so drunk he’d just like to go right on to bed; "But I got detectors to deliver," He said, "all over the damn place", "Getting them all to prospectors before daybreak, will be quite a race!" And grabbing a hand full of his knickers and scratchin’ his ass, He roared, "Is that Billy workin’ I want tea, I need to get out of here fast;" He sprang to his sleigh, to his Roo’s gave a cursing command, "You better get to friggin' flying or you’ll feel the back of my hand!" But I heard him exclaim, as he flew out over the lake, "Why don’t you quit looking for gold and spend Christmas with your family for Christ's sake!" Merry Christmas to all my mates here in the U.S. and Down Under wishing you a joyous and blessed Christmas and a glorious New Year - Doc and Diana
  13. Another exciting IMPROVED INNOVATION from Doc. "SAGA" $44.95 Contact Chris,
  14. WOW! You must have been exceptionally good for Christmas because Santa really likes you. I have been busy working with Santa to produce some new toys and accessories. One of those accessories is a kick butt arm cuff cover for the SD/GP/GPX line of machines. We have never had a truly comfortable or functional arm cuff cover for these machines. The North Pole just finished a production run of thousands of Doc's NEW Nugget Stalker SD/GP/GPX arm cuff covers. They are being loaded on Santa's sleigh as we speak. However I bribed an elf to send me a small quantity of them by DHL. They literally arrived 4 hours ago. They are fantastic! If I don't say so myself. They are padded and use high quality 3M Hook and loop throughout. Instead of using the lame snap on straps that some of the SD GP GPX cuffs use. We integrated the strap into the cuff. The arm cuff cover attaches to the arm cuff of the detector with 3M hook and loop. We supply you with the opposing self adhesive hook and loop to stick onto your steel arm cuff, and then position Doc's Nugget Stalker arm cuff cover onto the opposite hook and loop stitched inside the pockets of the cover and the bottom of the cuff for a non-slip secure fit. In addition the strap is 2 inches wide, to give you a better feel of control. The underside of the strap, that is against your arm, has been lined with the fuzzy side or the loop fabric. This makes it soft and cushioned against your arm so the strap does not irritate your arm. I think this will be a very popular accessory item. I can't begin to imagine how many SD, GP and GPX machines are out there. They all need this cover. We can't have naked arm cuffs running around. Only 3 of my top dealers will carry these cuffs. Unfortunately, for right now, Chris Gholson, Rob Allison and Bill Southern will each only be allocated 5 of these covers for a total of 15 covers, until Santa brings the thousands of covers that are on the sleigh. The price will be $24.95 plus s&h. First come first serve. OH, and wait until you see the surprise I have for you next week. Again, another package coming DHL from the North Pole workshop containing some first production run goodies. Doc
  15. By the Way, This pick is also available with a nice size 1 inch by 3/8th inch round super magnet for an additional $10. It is mounted to the top of the blade right over where the handle would enter the collar. It is one of the magnets that has the counter sunk hole and is attached with a metal screw into the head. Doc
  16. In case you're wondering why the front of the picks has tape on it, it's because it is SHARP. Sharp enough to chop right through a stubborn bush so you can get your coil over that nugget. The edges of the blade are bent in to facilitate quick removal of dirt from the hole. The handle is made of premium ASH hard wood. It's a solid tool! Doc
  17. Got to the gold fields Wednesday January 13, 2014 around 6:30 am. Brisk! Went to the place I took my customer December 31 when we got on 8 specimens and no trash. I was sure there had to be one or two I have missed. Worked it for three hours, and no love at all, decided to try another place. I had a customer I had sold a GPZ7000 to a while back I had trained this person the better part of the day, walking along side and listening to what they were hearing through the speaker. They were digging trash and bullets with no problems so we went looking for something that looked fresh. I found this beautiful little gully that just looked so right. So I said work this gully right here and take your time. I told them I would be a few ridges over in case they needed me just shout. So I wander around and come back to the gully my customer is in, if they were working it right they should have covered only about 20% of it. But no, they were halfway down the gully already so I knew they were going way too fast. I turned my machine on and started at the top of the gully. 30 feet down the gully right on the side next to a bush I get a subtle little target, so I call the customer back up the gully and tell them to run their coil over that spot right by the bush and tell me if they hear anything. Of course they did and proceeded to dig up a nice little 1/2 gram nugget. It was getting late in the day and so we headed for home without actually thoroughly checking that gully. So anyway I thought about that gully today and thought I really needed to go back there and work that gully because I know my customer was working it way too fast. About 1/3 of the way down the gully I get an unmistakable target on the side in amongst some cobbles. No way you could miss this unless you didn't put your coil over it. 2.8 grams at 10 inches. Then all the way at the very bottom of the gully right smack dab in the middle 6 inches down, another nugget. On the way back up I worked the sides up out of the gully and snagged two more little ones. I think the biggest hurdles for new detectorists are two things. 1. They can have the best machine, but they have no confidence that there is really gold in the ground and they can find it. This is not a hobby for pessimists. 2. No matter how much you drill it in to them to go slow, their idea of slow is at least three to four times faster than what you have showed them SLOW is. So anyway, ended the day on a high note. First outing for 2016 and 4 nuggets, and one weighed more than a gram. Can you imagine that, a nugget from Gold Basin that weighs more than a gram? I know! Right? Doc
  18. Fred you are an experienced prospector. I am sure you sort of do what I do. You adjust your speed according to conditions. When you are in conditions and ground that your experience tells you might be rich, you slow down. If I am on the very top of a ridge, you will not see me moving slowly, because I have rarely found a nugget on the very top of a ridge. But if I am in a quartz strewn gully I slow down and work the base of the bushes lining the gully hard. But when it is someone new to the hobby, they have to go slow. They have to learn where nuggets can be found. You can't tell them, "Adjust your speed according to your experience." Because they have no experience. Now I try to be nice. When I train someone, if I am following up behind them and find a target they missed I let them know. I call them back, let them hear the target with their detector, I let them dig the target and if it is a nugget they get to keep it. And I trade off back and forth. When Hoss Blackman was teaching me, if I missed a target, he would call me back. Let me run my detector over it hear it and dig it and recover it. Then he would take it from me and put it in his poke and keep it and tell me, that was for not hearing it the first time. Well let me tell you, that slowed me down really quick. The day came, when I graduated. About 5 trips in a row I was finding nuggets and he was following me doing cleanup, and had not found one nugget in 5 trips of following in my footsteps. He told me, "You have finally learned how to detect and not leave gold behind. My work is done here." Hoss was one of those bigger than life fellows. I feel honored that he taught me what he knew. I never did understand why he took a liking to me. Doc
  19. If you have anything available, please let me know. Thank you, Doc
  20. Thank you for everyone who offered nuggets for sale. My customer selected one he liked. Doc
  21. We were all waiting for it to COOL OFF, not FREEZE OUR ASS OFF. For me, cool off, would be like mid 60' to low 70's. I'm with Chris, I'm a wimp when it comes to cold weather. Doc
  22. I am all for the live and let live philosophy too, unless they don't rattle. I have no use for a snake that comes from a gene pool that doesn't know enough to rattle to at least give someone fair warning to move in another direction. Out in Gold Basin I have ran into Mohave Greens that regardless of how much noise you make or banging the pick on the ground to cause vibrations, they just lay there quietly waiting for you to get within striking range. No bueno! One early morning I pulled onto a dirt road and laying in the road sunning itself was a Mohave, it was the most beautiful shade of emerald green. I stopped my truck short and got out to take a picture. I was at least 30 feet away and as soon as I walked to the front of my truck, he started rattling. I took my picture and got back in my truck and took a wide loop around him to let him resume sunning himself. I liked it that he went on high alert really quickly. Doc
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