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i do a spot a detecting for gold(gpx4000) and want to get into coin hunting as well. am wondering if any of you wise men out there can advise on the ability of this machine, is it out dated?, is it on par with other machines for this job? .i know asking what the best machine is, is a question loaded with personal option.i just want a machine that will perform OK, will this machine do the business?

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If I was looking for an "cheap" coin hunter I think it would be a Garret ACE 250...they run about 225.00 on ebay and I got one for my wife.....it works good, she has fun and I use it to hunt parks with....

I have had a Whites 6000...not bad but heavy after a couple of hours hunting...

Then again ya can't beat a Minelab Exterra 70 either, or a Whites MXT.

Just depends on what ya want and what you can afford.

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if this is an older 6000 from the early 80's it is a good coin hunter...if it has the vlf/tr mode you can use "reverse descrimination" which I always found extremely accurate...modern machines are in some ways better and certainly easier to use.

 

Fred

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I've got a factory hip mounted 6000DI that I've used for years with good results!. Now it is pretty much used for searching abandoned building ceilings & walls due to the fact I can hold the coil over my head to reach the ceilings.

 

If you are looking into getting started for a very small price try Swap Meets and garage sales.

 

 

 

 

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Kiwi... and everyone who has posted... I give all a friendly "Howdy."

We share a great hobby... coin hunting, and there is still older coins

to be found... I recently found a seated liberty dime, but it is in poor

condition...

 

The 6000d's were analogue and not digital.... But there is nothing wrong

with analogues...

 

I will assume Kiwi has access to a good a"6000d" with Ground Excluson

Balance (GEB) as designed by George Paine.. With GEB discrimination.

 

However, we must keep in mind there are a series of them... The first was

a red-button "whip machine." It was/is fast in GEB disc mode... Good as a

coinhunter... used two battery packs of AA cells. The 6000d Series/2 did

not need to be whipped in GEB discrimination. It also used a single pack of

four C-cells...

 

The early 6000 series/2 VDI with the swinging needle (which registered the coin

sized conductivity) initually had a problem in trash... the analogue

meter was too slow and could not quickly VDI the coins in the trash... However,

the problem was solved with the 6000d series 3 with the VDI analogue meter

above the handle are still used.

 

They are old-technology... but if you have anyone of the 6000 that is still

good shape, you have a still-good unit. They are about 6-7 kHz and good for coins.

They have GEB All metal, GEB Disc, GEB Max, and TR discrimination.

 

I still have a red-pushbutton "whip" and also the 6000 Series/2 with the

"slow" VDI meter... Some stubborn old-timers still like the swinging

needle of an analogue over the flashing numbers of the digital... Also, the

analogue technology required closer tolerances and more expensive to

make...

 

Actually... all of the Whites 6000 Series/2 and Series/3 are good coin shooters.

The analogue technology was good... However, the digital technology has now

replaced the analogue... The last analogue White's made was the "black box"

5900 SL (slung low) Pro. I still have and use one... they have the front end

"Signal Balance" which if understood and used properly could pull out a coin

at "good depth" in a heavily hunted park.

 

The digitals started with the Eagles, I and II with the "chip updates." The Eagle II

SL (slung low) came out late in 1989, it was replaced by the Eagle II SL 90 which

also had VCO.

 

They also had the front-end "SIG BAL" which was still not understood by some of the

casual users. The SL's could be "setup" with custom programs... If anyone is looking

for a "challenge"... the SL Eagle II's could be a good choice (as is the current DFX)

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KiWi... and others... I will add more... I'm not a "smarty-pants"

or a wiseman... Just an "old guy" who first used a big boxed early

White's. (But also a SCR-625 Military Mine Detector back in 1953).

It was also a VLF type machine with primitive ground balancing.

 

However, it was George Paine who designed the first "VLF" type

civilian detector... the Five Supreme about 1984. It had great

depth... but no discrimination... Deep holes were dug, and not

back-filled. Some parks such as "Walnut park" in Petaluma were

posted off limits as someone used a shovel and put the dirt in a burlap

bag for later recovery... Then, thankfully for us, Mr Paine designed

the VLF to have Ground Exclusion Balance in the discrimination mode.

So now discrimination was sorta equal to the depth... However, as

fredmason noted the first VLF/TR's could be disc'd using reverse

discrimination.

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Whoops... old age is getting to me.

Correction: George Paine designed the White's Five

Supreme in 1974 not 1984...

 

Mr. Paine is still active and designing industrial stuff.

 

He designed the Compass Coin Scanners and also the

Bounty Hunter RB-7 which was the first machine to use

ground balanced Discrimination

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thanks for filling in the spaces, Jim...you knowledge is highly valued...I doubt many newbbies understand the reference to Reverse Discrimination...it was by far the most accurate form of iron/noniron discrimination I have ever used...but modern detectors are a lot easier to use and carry.

 

Fred

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Fred... It is cold today and I'm sticking close to the fire... I

just opened up my computer. Saw your earlier post....

 

Reverse discrimination... And my ol' 1978 vintage ground

hog "Coinhunter" VLF/TR... Non ADS... A fond memory.

 

Back then there were not many coinhunters and they were

still using BFO's. The Garrett Master Hunter was the "Flagstone"

of the BFO-technology... but then came the VLF/TR's and the

"reverse discrimination" trick.... Then someone found out that

it was possible to groundbalance a VLF using autotune...

 

Back in the 1970's just about any detector could find sillver,

wheaties, and buffaloes... A couple of inches depth that was

all that was needed in many parks and playgrounds and the

schools were not fenced... Times have changed...

 

My knowledge... now history (My first vehicle was a 1925

Chevy which I bought when I was still going to HS. Tom

McCormac was going to what is now known as Area 51, back

then in the Groom Range good gold could be found.) All is

now history... so is reverse discrimination.

 

Fred... it is nice to go down memory lane... but my memory

is fading...

 

Keep posting good stuff... Jim

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Hi all,

thanks Jim and others for sharing your knowledge, its tricky trying to work out a good detector to hunt coins and jewerelly . am thinking a modern day machine maybe the path to go down instead of learning what an older machine is telling me

see ya

matt

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kiwi... It is most critical that you have full confidence in "whatever"

detector you select... So go for whatever you feel the most comfortable

with... And may you find lots'a coins and jewelry...

 

To everyone who posted; it was nice to go down "Memory Lane" regarding

the White's Coinmaster 6000d Series... Thank You-All

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im thinking a garrett ace 250 looks like a good wee machine to give coin shooting a crack without blowing any budgets- read keeping misus happy.She was not impressed when i brought a GPX4000, but changed her tune when i came home with a 5 oz nugget :)

any info on the garret would be good

cheers

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Kiwi... A light slowly turned on... I'm a "drongo." You may be in

New Zealand? If so, there are likely fellow mates? The Garrett

250 may be a good choice... I "have" one... I liked it...

I say "have" because our oldest grandaughter is using it...

A new machine, such as the 250 has a guarantee... whereas an

older one can be expensive if it has a problem. However I do not

know how the 250 would handle any of the New Zealand beaches.

I only used "mine" at parks here in southern California, so I

cannot "fair dinkum" say "she'll be right."

 

Are you in the north island or the south island? I have never

been there but know of the beauty... the "Isles of High Mountains."

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hi Jim,

yes i come from the land down under, gods own and live in Queenstown the adventure capital of the world, i fly tandem hang gliders when im not in the hill chasing nuggets.Queenstown is in the south island and was very rich in gold 140 years ago, the Arrow and Shotover rivers were some of the richest in the world in some spots 300oz were picked up in a day.

the new gold is in the form of tourists and the beach on the lake front where on a nice day they lie in the sun would im thinking a good place to hunt for coins and lost goodies.

take care and the best of luck in the search, good on ya mate

matt

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Gosh Kiwi.... Queenstown... You are near the south end of

South Island... I have never been there, but back when

I was at school one of my textbooks "Elements of Geomorpology"

was written by C.A. Cotton, who was (then) a highly espected professor

at Victoria University College, Wellington, New Zealand.

 

It was chosen over other textbooks as the best textbook available

by the geology staff at Mackay School of Mines at the University of

Nevada in Reno Nevada.

 

One of the lakes mentioned several times was Lake Wakatipu.

I just peeked at my Cotton... which was printed by Whitcombe

& Tombs Limited in New Zealand in 1949; the lake was 1242 feet

depth and part of its floor was said to be 227 feet below sealevel.

 

Since you are near water, both fresh and salt, it also occurs to

me that detecting any of the beaches for coins and jewelry

would be worthwhile... so maybe a consideration would be to

chose (avago) a detector that could be also used in any wet sand ???

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My Gold Bug 2 is a Los Banos machine and has a few years on its back.

 

The machine cost much more here in Norway then in US and the post will be expencive from this end anyway.

 

It would not be a good deal for any of us if I sell it to US.

 

Thanks for the interest though...

 

Bjorn.

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I had a 6000 DI. It was a workhorse! 3500+ coins in 5yrs. Here`s a pic of my best day. 239 coins. The porch remodel that I was detecting produced over 540 coins and 2 silver rings in 5 afternoon visits. I loved the 6000 but my Explorer SE is out of this world! If you have the means you should upgrade. There`s no substitute for confidence in you machine!

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I HAVE A 6000/DI FOR SALE ON THE NUGGETHUNTER FORUM. IT IS IN GREAT SHAPE IF ANYONE WANTS ONE.

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Wow... this subpost has seen a lot of good posts.... Down memory lane for sure.

There were two 6000Di's... The series two was quickly replaced by the Series 3.

 

Hi Jim,

How can I tell what series mine is?

thanks,

---Roland---

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Well... your photo shows a series three... All series three, the meter on the handle.

All series two, the meter was on the control box.... Series three DI was a good

machine. The ID meter was faster on series three (and series three soon replaced the series

2 because of this). Series 2 and series 3 coils are interchangeable. But neither were

interchangeable with any earlier pre-series two White's coils.

 

 

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Thank you Jim. I took it to a park this morning and it did real well. The coil is very sensitive. It was a little awkward to use after using a DFX for years but did the job fine. My buddy liked the small case it fits in and borrowed it to take on vacation.

 

---Roland---

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